- Angeles Crest,
- up toward the peak and then go down Chaney Trail, or
- I always see downhillers take off on the trail which heads west from Redbox (not recommended, I've never done it).
I came back via Chaney and the loop took over seven hours. Out and back could be harder, you dip down to 3100' in the middle and its 4600' at Redbox and the junction of Redbox-Rincon.
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